Thanks for clarifying on all fronts. I use EEM more as a market monitor for EM, as it holds more than 1,200 stocks. But when it comes to using call or put options to express my view on Emerging Markets for trading (not investing), EEM has the liquidity. So your point is well taken, that an EM-focused ETF that is actually focused (not 1,200 names) is worth a look. I took a quick glance at NSI, since you took the time to comment on my post, and it appears to be a 120-stock version of EEM in large part. The same big holdings in EEM are prominent in NSI, and ZTE, the one you mentioned, is 0.02% of EEM's holdings. I'm no expert in this part of the market, but my math indicates that unless NSI takes out some big-weighted positions from EEM to arrive at its portfolio, it will take some time to see if your thesis is on target.
Thanks for contributing to the discussion, and as they say, this is what makes a market!
Hah, thanks for sharing that. Yes, like a lot of the stock market, it has net-net gone nowhere for a while. But what I see in the chart that makes this one stand out is the new breakout, which might clear a path to move higher, essentially busting out of a long trading range. We'll see.
On put options to hedge a.k.a. "tail risk" - always part of my considerations.
1. Define better. Matthew Tuttle, who helped create NSI and bring it to market, is a friend of mine and past/future podcasting partner, so I am familiar with it.
2. Write a post or article about NSI, instead of just doing your impersonation of someone on X or Reddit, swooping in, saying "mine is better" then running away. Make your case as to why taking out the bad actors in EEM will be better, and whether it is a trading tool or buy and hold for you.
3. Are you 100% sure that every investor reading this will consider it "better?" So much of investing today has turned into a battle of pointless arrogance. I don't have opinions on investments, other than do I think it can help me make money, cut major loss potential or both. AND, everything is within the context of my total portfolio.
So, please follow up and tell my audience, which you have walked into with a quick dismissive comment, more in depth about why your opinion is so important. I am an equal opportunity investor. But only if the source can show that they are more than politically-motivated. I recall lots of money being made on investing in what some call "bad actors" while other investors don't see it that way. I'm not here to settle those political disagreements. Just to educate from my experience and put my own thoughts out while backing them up.
Your turn?
Also, I'm assuming you don't have any affiliation with NSI or a financial advisory firm, just an investor seeking ways to make money for themselves. In other words, not "talking your own book" without disclosing it, correct?
Thanks for starting a good discussion. Looking forward to you continuing it, so we can all get smarter every day.
Well looking at your chart EEM is back to where it was in April of 2022, which seems to be yet another ETF that is getting back to that level of where it was in 2022. I don't know Rob...I'm not comfortable using fresh (or ancient) capital to work yet. I am more interested in the put option on the SPY as I am looking more for protection than offense. I think you are rubbing off on me!
Thanks for clarifying on all fronts. I use EEM more as a market monitor for EM, as it holds more than 1,200 stocks. But when it comes to using call or put options to express my view on Emerging Markets for trading (not investing), EEM has the liquidity. So your point is well taken, that an EM-focused ETF that is actually focused (not 1,200 names) is worth a look. I took a quick glance at NSI, since you took the time to comment on my post, and it appears to be a 120-stock version of EEM in large part. The same big holdings in EEM are prominent in NSI, and ZTE, the one you mentioned, is 0.02% of EEM's holdings. I'm no expert in this part of the market, but my math indicates that unless NSI takes out some big-weighted positions from EEM to arrive at its portfolio, it will take some time to see if your thesis is on target.
Thanks for contributing to the discussion, and as they say, this is what makes a market!
Best regards,
Rob
Hah, thanks for sharing that. Yes, like a lot of the stock market, it has net-net gone nowhere for a while. But what I see in the chart that makes this one stand out is the new breakout, which might clear a path to move higher, essentially busting out of a long trading range. We'll see.
On put options to hedge a.k.a. "tail risk" - always part of my considerations.
I have a better one. NASDAQ: NSI
https://www.nationalsecurityindex.com/
It takes out all the bad actors in emerging markets.
1. Define better. Matthew Tuttle, who helped create NSI and bring it to market, is a friend of mine and past/future podcasting partner, so I am familiar with it.
2. Write a post or article about NSI, instead of just doing your impersonation of someone on X or Reddit, swooping in, saying "mine is better" then running away. Make your case as to why taking out the bad actors in EEM will be better, and whether it is a trading tool or buy and hold for you.
3. Are you 100% sure that every investor reading this will consider it "better?" So much of investing today has turned into a battle of pointless arrogance. I don't have opinions on investments, other than do I think it can help me make money, cut major loss potential or both. AND, everything is within the context of my total portfolio.
So, please follow up and tell my audience, which you have walked into with a quick dismissive comment, more in depth about why your opinion is so important. I am an equal opportunity investor. But only if the source can show that they are more than politically-motivated. I recall lots of money being made on investing in what some call "bad actors" while other investors don't see it that way. I'm not here to settle those political disagreements. Just to educate from my experience and put my own thoughts out while backing them up.
Your turn?
Also, I'm assuming you don't have any affiliation with NSI or a financial advisory firm, just an investor seeking ways to make money for themselves. In other words, not "talking your own book" without disclosing it, correct?
Thanks for starting a good discussion. Looking forward to you continuing it, so we can all get smarter every day.
Best regards,
Rob Isbitts
Founder, Sungarden Investment Publishing
and ETFYourself.com
Hi Rob. Its not my ETF. Just imagine if EEM holdings like ZTE get sanctioned more in the next administration.
Well looking at your chart EEM is back to where it was in April of 2022, which seems to be yet another ETF that is getting back to that level of where it was in 2022. I don't know Rob...I'm not comfortable using fresh (or ancient) capital to work yet. I am more interested in the put option on the SPY as I am looking more for protection than offense. I think you are rubbing off on me!